dowels and look at that close up themselves. but the judge ruled in this particular case while it was presented for demonstration purposes, indeed it wasn't actual evidence and they only can lay their hands on evidence. so while they can ask for and have asked for the videos, and those are the security videotapes that they can look at, they can look at those repeatedly, in this particular case the judge said this is not evidence so, no, what you saw is what you're going to have to work with off of your memory. now, it's somewhat unusual, but as the jury is out, the defense attorney, cory stchltrolla held news conference. he said during the trial there was a lot going on and he couldn't share what he thought and what his client thought. among the questions that he answered as the media gathered there with the jury only across the aisle, as it were, well out of ear distance, but as they were deliberating, asked the questions of how is your client, the accused, michael dunn, handling this right now. this is what he had to say.